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	<title>Comments on: To Make Or Remake: Halloween</title>
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		<title>By: SeriouslynotWill</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeriouslynotWill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second one was just atrocious nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second one was just atrocious nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: john_pavlich</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also recommend The Strangers and The Signal, both of which have great, dread-filled atmosphere.

@&quot;But saying it and to a lesser extent House are not original movies is to say that Tarontino has yet to make one. An homage is ok if its your own in content.&quot;

Very well, I can agree with both. However, paying homage to a type of movie is more tolerable to me than outright stealing from or ripping off an entire film. Also, good writing counts for a lot, which could be argued that Tarantino is very good at. Maybe if Rob Zombie was a much better writer with more diverse, interesting characters, I&#039;d be more forgiving.

If you haven&#039;t seen it already, but enjoy psychotic, relentless, human killers, you should look at John Carpenter&#039;s Assault On Precinct 13, before he made Halloween. It&#039;s his modern, urban version of Rio Bravo. Very cool. If you have a Netflix account, you can watch it for free through streaming video on Instant Watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also recommend The Strangers and The Signal, both of which have great, dread-filled atmosphere.</p>
<p>@&#8221;But saying it and to a lesser extent House are not original movies is to say that Tarontino has yet to make one. An homage is ok if its your own in content.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very well, I can agree with both. However, paying homage to a type of movie is more tolerable to me than outright stealing from or ripping off an entire film. Also, good writing counts for a lot, which could be argued that Tarantino is very good at. Maybe if Rob Zombie was a much better writer with more diverse, interesting characters, I&#8217;d be more forgiving.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen it already, but enjoy psychotic, relentless, human killers, you should look at John Carpenter&#8217;s Assault On Precinct 13, before he made Halloween. It&#8217;s his modern, urban version of Rio Bravo. Very cool. If you have a Netflix account, you can watch it for free through streaming video on Instant Watching.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ I have not seen a ’scary’ original American horror movie in at least a decade.

Check out &quot;Shuttle&quot;. It&#039;s rough but ultimately rewarding. It&#039;s a suspensful, minimalist mean little flick in the 70&#039;s exploitation tradition.

There&#039;s no jump scares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ I have not seen a ’scary’ original American horror movie in at least a decade.</p>
<p>Check out &#8220;Shuttle&#8221;. It&#8217;s rough but ultimately rewarding. It&#8217;s a suspensful, minimalist mean little flick in the 70&#8217;s exploitation tradition.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no jump scares.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schwien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I differ on Halloween because I find the human psycho who was born evil and killed people for fun more scary and entertaining than an unexplained supernatural killing machine. But that&#039;s always been my taste, I found chainsaw scarier than The Exorcist. I respect the original for what it is, I mean it was only about the second movie of its kind and it was the one that brought its genre to a massive audience, but I get no emotional response from it at all. I always loved black Christmas more it was the first in the genre and it was not supernatural but it has a great open ending and manages to scare still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I differ on Halloween because I find the human psycho who was born evil and killed people for fun more scary and entertaining than an unexplained supernatural killing machine. But that&#8217;s always been my taste, I found chainsaw scarier than The Exorcist. I respect the original for what it is, I mean it was only about the second movie of its kind and it was the one that brought its genre to a massive audience, but I get no emotional response from it at all. I always loved black Christmas more it was the first in the genre and it was not supernatural but it has a great open ending and manages to scare still.</p>
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		<title>By: Schwien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schwien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ I also don’t think he comprehends what is scary — making audiences uncomfortable is not the same thing as scaring them.

I have not seen a &#039;scary&#039; original American horror movie in at least a decade. While I have no interest in such garbage as Hostel I found that Halloween&#039;s violence pushed my buttons in a way that American Horror has not been doing in any way. To me the only thing modern American films have been doing is using hard cuts from quiet to loud scenes or prolonged scenes of quiet with a predictable jump out at you with a loud noise moment to induce a scare that are to blatant and predictable to be scary. I don&#039;t consider trying to make people jump worthy of being called scary. personally I find that he understands what gets an emotional reaction more than most people making horror in the US today. There are good scary movies just not in a North American accent.

I should say that The devils Rejects is nothing like Henry. It&#039;s more of an homage to 70&#039;s chainsaw type of horror crossed with a southern action/road movie with cheesy dialogue but a good soundtrack. But saying it and to a lesser extent House are not original movies is to say that Tarontino has yet to make one. An homage is ok if its your own in content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ I also don’t think he comprehends what is scary — making audiences uncomfortable is not the same thing as scaring them.</p>
<p>I have not seen a &#8217;scary&#8217; original American horror movie in at least a decade. While I have no interest in such garbage as Hostel I found that Halloween&#8217;s violence pushed my buttons in a way that American Horror has not been doing in any way. To me the only thing modern American films have been doing is using hard cuts from quiet to loud scenes or prolonged scenes of quiet with a predictable jump out at you with a loud noise moment to induce a scare that are to blatant and predictable to be scary. I don&#8217;t consider trying to make people jump worthy of being called scary. personally I find that he understands what gets an emotional reaction more than most people making horror in the US today. There are good scary movies just not in a North American accent.</p>
<p>I should say that The devils Rejects is nothing like Henry. It&#8217;s more of an homage to 70&#8217;s chainsaw type of horror crossed with a southern action/road movie with cheesy dialogue but a good soundtrack. But saying it and to a lesser extent House are not original movies is to say that Tarontino has yet to make one. An homage is ok if its your own in content.</p>
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		<title>By: john_pavlich</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Rob Zombie&#039;s music. Astro Creep 2000 and Hellbilly Deluxe are mostly solid efforts all the way through. Ever since he started making movies, I feel his music has suffered. I also don&#039;t think he&#039;s very good at his job as a filmmaker, particularly in the writing department. So uninspired and cliched, it&#039;s eye-rolling. It seems that pretty much only a few main character types exist in his films, usually white trash rednecks or religious/satanic zealots.

He has yet to do an original piece. Remake or not, his films are all strongly derivative. House of 1000 Corpses is just Texas Chainsaw Massacre, while The Devil&#039;s Rejects looks very much like Henry, Portrait Of A Serial Killer (haven&#039;t seen that one so I&#039;m not certain). His &quot;version&quot; of Halloween took out all the suspense of the source material and turned Myers into a generic, traditional mental case. Plus, Loomis is portrayed here as a terrible child psychologist. You&#039;re just going to let him wear masks all day long like there&#039;s nothing wrong with it? I liked the scene in the empty swimming pool, as it was a new setting and very effective, but aside from the acting (like you said, very credible), I cannot abide the movie.

I&#039;ll just leave with this. Over at slashfilm.com it was announced that Rob Zombie is remaking the original, 1950s&#039; film, The Blob. Initially, I&#039;d be fine with this, as I thought the 1988 version by Frank Darabont and Chuck Russell was very fun and occasionally intense, and I feel that a modern update could also be interesting in that same way. However, given his track record, I feel Zombie is going to mess this up royally, and a commenter from the slashfilm article summed up exactly how I feel about the man and his work:

&quot;This is particularly amusing since before Halloween, he proudly proclaimed his contempt for remakes. I guess paychecks make a big difference in principles.

The problem with Zombie&#039;s work is that while he&#039;s technically competent, he&#039;s a tragically awful storyteller in every respect -- with words, pacing and tone. And though he obviously loves horror and exploitation, he doesn&#039;t seem to really understand why -- or at least is unable to properly articulate it, so he just emulates the style on a superficial level.

I also don&#039;t think he comprehends what is scary -- making audiences uncomfortable is not the same thing as scaring them.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Rob Zombie&#8217;s music. Astro Creep 2000 and Hellbilly Deluxe are mostly solid efforts all the way through. Ever since he started making movies, I feel his music has suffered. I also don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s very good at his job as a filmmaker, particularly in the writing department. So uninspired and cliched, it&#8217;s eye-rolling. It seems that pretty much only a few main character types exist in his films, usually white trash rednecks or religious/satanic zealots.</p>
<p>He has yet to do an original piece. Remake or not, his films are all strongly derivative. House of 1000 Corpses is just Texas Chainsaw Massacre, while The Devil&#8217;s Rejects looks very much like Henry, Portrait Of A Serial Killer (haven&#8217;t seen that one so I&#8217;m not certain). His &#8220;version&#8221; of Halloween took out all the suspense of the source material and turned Myers into a generic, traditional mental case. Plus, Loomis is portrayed here as a terrible child psychologist. You&#8217;re just going to let him wear masks all day long like there&#8217;s nothing wrong with it? I liked the scene in the empty swimming pool, as it was a new setting and very effective, but aside from the acting (like you said, very credible), I cannot abide the movie.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just leave with this. Over at slashfilm.com it was announced that Rob Zombie is remaking the original, 1950s&#8217; film, The Blob. Initially, I&#8217;d be fine with this, as I thought the 1988 version by Frank Darabont and Chuck Russell was very fun and occasionally intense, and I feel that a modern update could also be interesting in that same way. However, given his track record, I feel Zombie is going to mess this up royally, and a commenter from the slashfilm article summed up exactly how I feel about the man and his work:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is particularly amusing since before Halloween, he proudly proclaimed his contempt for remakes. I guess paychecks make a big difference in principles.</p>
<p>The problem with Zombie&#8217;s work is that while he&#8217;s technically competent, he&#8217;s a tragically awful storyteller in every respect &#8212; with words, pacing and tone. And though he obviously loves horror and exploitation, he doesn&#8217;t seem to really understand why &#8212; or at least is unable to properly articulate it, so he just emulates the style on a superficial level.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think he comprehends what is scary &#8212; making audiences uncomfortable is not the same thing as scaring them.&#8221;</p>
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